Can A Man See God?

I failed to mention here an article that I authored which was published by the Interpreter last November.

http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/can-a-man-see-god-1-timothy-616-in-light-of-ancient-and-modern-revelation/

Abstract: Joseph Smith’s First Vision is a favorite target of critics of the LDS Church. Evangelical critics in particular, such as Matt Slick of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, seek to discredit the First Vision on biblical grounds. This article explores biblical theophanies and argues that Joseph’s vision fits squarely with the experience of ancient prophets, especially those who are given the rare blessing of piercing the veil of light and glory, the Hebrew kabod, that God dwells within.

The backstory on this paper is pretty simple. I stumbled upon a Youtube video of Matt Slick, of CARM, attempting to debate a group of LDS youth who were entering a temple in Idaho. He whipped out 1 Timothy 6:16, a strategy which I’ve personally experienced in my limited interactions with Slick online. Years ago when I first encountered Slick’s arguments along these lines I pounded out a few preliminary thoughts in this old blog post. Many of those early ideas made into my paper. The paper is primarily apologetic, but it involves some exploration of biblical themes which was very interesting and educational for me as I researched the topic.

I am a working professional in a completely irrelevant field, so I am not an expert on the issue. I don’t anticipate publishing more essays at a steady pace due to time constraints, but I do hope to publish occasionally throughout the years.

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9 comments on “Can A Man See God?

  1. EG says:

    It is interesting to note that Slick and his buddies target youth, and usually youth who do not have any adults around. I have read, on Slick’s site and other sites that attack the LDS church, that their strategy is to target young people who have no adults around them, then isolate these kids to make the young kids a captive audience. Slick and company want to catch these kids off guard and shock them with contradictions.
    And Slick and others of his ilk complain about how LDS missionaries proselytize.
    The critics also go to LDS historical sites and do the same thing with the guides, in front of a group of people, catching the guides off guard.

  2. Selections from Answers to Gospel Questions
    Taken from the writings of Joseph Fielding Smith
    Tenth President of Mormonism
    A course Study for the Melchizedek Priesthood Quorums
    1972-73

    Lesson 6 page 39

    “It was Jesus who gave commandments to Adam after he was driven out of the Garden of Eden and who directed Enoch and Noah before the flood. It was Christ who named Abraham and made him that through his posterity all nations would be blessed. He, it was who called Moses to lead Isreal out of Egypt and who wrote with his fingers on the tables of stone. He had no body until he was born in Bethlehem.” Since Jesus is God of the Old Testament era and was Fatherless and Motherless until the flesh Mosiah 3:5 the sighting of God have always been Jesus OUR LORD and GOD. 3 Nephi 19:18

  3. http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Lectures_on_Faith

    Lectures on Faith

    Lecture Five 2. There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing, and supreme power over all things, by whom all things were created and made…. They are the Father and the Son: the Father being a personage of spirit, glory, and power, possessing all perfection and fulness. The Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, is a personage of tabernacle, made or fashioned like unto man,

    This is best example of Joseph Smith lying about first vision since he says God the Father is a personage of spirit, Jesus is personage of tabernacle which was published before first vision story was published

    • Your link proves my point by saying this:”When the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants was published in 1835 it portrayed God the Father as a personage of spirit whereas Jesus Christ was portrayed as a personage of tabernacle, or one having a physical body. Yet the official LDS First Vision story portrays the Father as a physical Being. It is claimed that this is evidence of an evolution of story; and that the evolution of this story is evidence of fraud. “

    • James says:

      Keep reading the rest of the article, or do I need to copy and paste the whole thing?

    • Jesus a body of Tabernacle – juxtapose – God the Father a personage of Spirit. Lectures of Faith published before First Vision story . The crux of the article

    • Ron Den Boer says:

      “I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods,” (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370)

      The Godhead consists of the three distinct personages and three gods.. The Father Son and Holy Spirit. The Father and Son have bodies of flesh and bones, while the Holy Spirit is a personage of spirit. Robert Millet A Different Jesus page 198

      The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).

      Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: ”

  4. 1 Nephi 11: 24 And after he had said these words, he said unto me: Look! And I looked, and I beheld the Son of God going forth among the children of men; and I saw many fall down at his feet and worship him.

    3 Nephi 11: 17 Hosanna! Blessed be the name of the Most High God! And they did fall down at the feet of Jesus, and did worship him.

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